WEBVTT

 

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Well, thank you everyone, for joining us

 

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today on a market conversation that

we wanted to have with all of you.

 

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I'm Jeremy Swonger.

 

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We're joined here today with Byron Braun.

 

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Byron, thanks for being with us.

 

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Oh, great, Jeremy.

Glad to be here.

 

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Jump right into it.

 

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I want to have a conversation

about the current market.

 

9

00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:28.400

So Byron, tell us a little

bit about where we are now.

 

10

00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.980

Based on where we are and I kind

of call this a transition year.

 

11

00:00:32.010 --> 00:00:34.300

If you remember, last year inflation hit

 

12

00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:41.060

9.1%, went down to 6.4%. Interest rates

were at zero from the federal funds rate,

 

13

00:00:41.090 --> 00:00:47.540

now at 4.75%. The markets were very

choppy going into the end of the year.

 

14

00:00:47.570 --> 00:00:53.620

We've had a really nice rally, reflecting

optimism about inflation continuing.

 

15

00:00:53.650 --> 00:00:56.380

But the elephant still in the room is

 

16

00:00:56.410 --> 00:01:02.200

inflation and that's quick synopsis

of where we are as we speak.

 

17

00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:08.410

And tell us more about the

trend for interest rates.

 

18

00:01:08.440 --> 00:01:10.560

If you think about interest rates, and I

 

19

00:01:10.590 --> 00:01:14.620

kind of like to use analogy,

it's kind of like medicine.

 

20

00:01:14.650 --> 00:01:16.290

If you're ill

 

21

00:01:16.320 --> 00:01:21.570

and the doctor prescribes you so much

medicine and then you take it for a week

 

22

00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:24.780

or two weeks, you feel

a little bit better.

 

23

00:01:24.810 --> 00:01:27.180

Sometimes you regress backwards.

 

24

00:01:27.210 --> 00:01:31.260

Then you got to take more medicine

or different types of medications.

 

25

00:01:31.290 --> 00:01:36.020

So the medicine that the Federal Reserve

is using is rising interest rates.

 

26

00:01:36.050 --> 00:01:42.180

And more importantly, it is the perception

of where interest rates are going to go.

 

27

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Are they going to go higher, are they

 

28

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going to stay the same,

are they going to go down?

 

29

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So and so forth.

 

30

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But we're in this period now that

 

31

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since we have a divided government, the

massive trillion dollar bills that were

 

32

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passed in Congress last year probably

aren't going to happen again.

 

33

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So think about it.

 

34

00:02:00.570 --> 00:02:02.900

Last year Congress was stimulating

 

35

00:02:02.930 --> 00:02:07.260

inflation where the Federal Reserve

was trying to fight inflation.

 

36

00:02:07.290 --> 00:02:14.040

And even during that push pull, they still

got inflation down to 6.4%, which, if you

 

37

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think about it, was pretty

good accomplishment.

 

38

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I would agree.

 

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So as far as

looking at things, what do we think the

 

40

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outlook is going forward

with the inflation?

 

41

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If I had to bet, I would say we're going

 

42

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to have a sticking point right now because

right now wages are still relatively

 

43

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strong because the unemployment

rate is relatively low.

 

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00:02:39.850 --> 00:02:44.180

So my guess would be maybe

move sideways a little bit.

 

45

00:02:44.210 --> 00:02:46.880

And then once all of the things that the

 

46

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Federal Reserve is doing gets through the

system, plus the world has had an

 

47

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amazingly warm winter, and that has a

positive impact on

 

48

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lowering of natural gas, lowering of

energy, cost heating, so on and so forth.

 

49

00:03:07.930 --> 00:03:12.060

So we've been fortunate

to have a mild winter.

 

50

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So sticking a little bit, federal Reserve

raise rates maybe one or two more times

 

51

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and then a continuation of a

downward movement, probably.

 

52

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Okay, can you speak a little bit more on

how inflation affects

 

53

00:03:25.970 --> 00:03:31.300

the budget or the aspect for

everyone here on their, I guess,

 

54

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discretionary versus

nondiscretionary monies.

 

55

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Yes.

 

56

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Everybody has a budget and I don't care if

you're rich, poor, middle income, if you

 

57

00:03:41.610 --> 00:03:45.460

are a school district, if you are the

government, everybody has budgets.

 

58

00:03:45.480 --> 00:03:47.280

So if you just think about budgets in

 

59

00:03:47.310 --> 00:03:51.180

these terms, you have X dollars

that comes in every month.

 

60

00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:56.610

And what's happening with inflation-

inflation acts like a magnet and it takes

 

61

00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:01.220

money away from the discretionary

side of one's budget.

 

62

00:04:01.250 --> 00:04:03.860

So your discretionary side are things like

 

63

00:04:03.890 --> 00:04:10.060

sporting events, things like going out to

dinner, things that you normally don't do.

 

64

00:04:10.090 --> 00:04:12.140

And so if I have a budget of, let's say

 

65

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$5,000 a month and inflation is at nine,

that magnet is taking money away from your

 

66

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discretionary side into

rent, housing, heating, food.

 

67

00:04:28.330 --> 00:04:31.220

Anybody that shops at a grocery store

 

68

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knows food is unbelievably expensive

right now, so it sucks it away.

 

69

00:04:37.450 --> 00:04:42.140

But it happens in the flip

when inflation starts to drop.

 

70

00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:46.220

So if I'm spending a dollar 89 for

 

71

00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:52.600

some raspberries and now it's a dollar 59,

believe it or not, that $0.30 has a

 

72

00:04:52.630 --> 00:04:55.580

tendency to move over to

the discretionary side.

 

73

00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:00.540

So every time you see it drop, the

discretionary side improves because

 

74

00:05:00.570 --> 00:05:03.220

everybody has a fixed

budget in their lives.

 

75

00:05:03.250 --> 00:05:10.580

So the hope is that it continues to

fall, taking money away from the feeding

 

76

00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.300

side, all that to the

nondiscretionary side.

 

77

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Okay, so any adjustments or portfolio

thoughts for our clients right now?

 

78

00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.380

With interest rates at approximately 20

 

79

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year highs, it's very tempting to

reduce the risk of a portfolio.

 

80

00:05:29.130 --> 00:05:32.080

So for example, most corporate bonds in

 

81

00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:35.500

the five to seven year

range are around 5%.

 

82

00:05:35.530 --> 00:05:38.020

We haven't seen those

rates in over 20 years.

 

83

00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.460

So that would act as a ballast or a good

 

84

00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:45.140

foundation for your portfolio and

reduce the risk at the same time.

 

85

00:05:45.170 --> 00:05:52.060

So my tendency is, is to be a little more

guarded, especially if you're in the last

 

86

00:05:52.090 --> 00:05:58.440

window of retirement, put a little more

money in bonds, get that 5% floor, reduce

 

87

00:05:58.470 --> 00:06:02.880

the risk of the portfolio; a

s a general comment.

 

88

00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.740

And as far as closing remarks, any

other closing remarks or anything?

 

89

00:06:08.770 --> 00:06:12.940

I just want to say to our clients

thank you very much for your continued

 

90

00:06:12.970 --> 00:06:15.340

trust and confidence

in this difficult time.

 

91

00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.220

We're going to try our best

to navigate through here.

 

92

00:06:18.250 --> 00:06:22.140

We as your financial advisors are

going to do our best possible.

 

93

00:06:22.170 --> 00:06:24.700

We will reach out to you ongoing to

 

94

00:06:24.730 --> 00:06:29.260

evaluate where you're at relative

to your risk and your objectives.

 

95

00:06:29.290 --> 00:06:34.780

And furthermore, we just want to continue

to share our service model with you here.

 

96

00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:40.980

Most of you have experienced this, but we

answer the phone with by the second ring.

 

97

00:06:41.010 --> 00:06:45.460

We don't have caller ID here, so

we're not screening anyone's calls.

 

98

00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.060

We don't have voicemail during business

 

99

00:06:48.090 --> 00:06:53.140

hours and we make it a point to

return your call within 24 hours.

 

100

00:06:53.170 --> 00:06:55.320

So we're also here of course, Jennifer

 

101

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& Stephanie are here for any

support needs that you have here.

 

102

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So, along with that, and kind of our

philosophy of just being simple, focused,

 

103

00:07:04.640 --> 00:07:08.080

and disciplined, we just want to share

that we're here for you and that we're

 

104

00:07:08.100 --> 00:07:12.100

going to continue to service you

in the best way that we know how.

 

105

00:07:12.130 --> 00:07:14.260

So.

Thank you, Jeremy.

 

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00:07:14.290 --> 00:07:19.580

And I just want to again, say thank you to

our clients for allowing us to be part of

 

107

00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.900

your journey, for your financial

goals and aspirations.

 

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Yes.

Thank you, everyone.

WEBVTT

 

1

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Well, thank you everyone, for joining us

 

2

00:00:09.010 --> 00:00:13.060

today on a market conversation that

we wanted to have with all of you.

 

3

00:00:13.090 --> 00:00:14.120

I'm Jeremy Swonger.

 

4

00:00:14.150 --> 00:00:16.740

We're joined here today with Byron Braun.

 

5

00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:17.980

Byron, thanks for being with us.

 

6

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Oh, great, Jeremy.

Glad to be here.

 

7

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Jump right into it.

 

8

00:00:21.010 --> 00:00:23.740

I want to have a conversation

about the current market.

 

9

00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:28.400

So Byron, tell us a little

bit about where we are now.

 

10

00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.980

Based on where we are and I kind

of call this a transition year.

 

11

00:00:32.010 --> 00:00:34.300

If you remember, last year inflation hit

 

12

00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:41.060

9.1%, went down to 6.4%. Interest rates

were at zero from the federal funds rate,

 

13

00:00:41.090 --> 00:00:47.540

now at 4.75%. The markets were very

choppy going into the end of the year.

 

14

00:00:47.570 --> 00:00:53.620

We've had a really nice rally, reflecting

optimism about inflation continuing.

 

15

00:00:53.650 --> 00:00:56.380

But the elephant still in the room is

 

16

00:00:56.410 --> 00:01:02.200

inflation and that's quick synopsis

of where we are as we speak.

 

17

00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:08.410

And tell us more about the

trend for interest rates.

 

18

00:01:08.440 --> 00:01:10.560

If you think about interest rates, and I

 

19

00:01:10.590 --> 00:01:14.620

kind of like to use analogy,

it's kind of like medicine.

 

20

00:01:14.650 --> 00:01:16.290

If you're ill

 

21

00:01:16.320 --> 00:01:21.570

and the doctor prescribes you so much

medicine and then you take it for a week

 

22

00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:24.780

or two weeks, you feel

a little bit better.

 

23

00:01:24.810 --> 00:01:27.180

Sometimes you regress backwards.

 

24

00:01:27.210 --> 00:01:31.260

Then you got to take more medicine

or different types of medications.

 

25

00:01:31.290 --> 00:01:36.020

So the medicine that the Federal Reserve

is using is rising interest rates.

 

26

00:01:36.050 --> 00:01:42.180

And more importantly, it is the perception

of where interest rates are going to go.

 

27

00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:43.720

Are they going to go higher, are they

 

28

00:01:43.720 --> 00:01:45.700

going to stay the same,

are they going to go down?

 

29

00:01:45.730 --> 00:01:46.980

So and so forth.

 

30

00:01:47.010 --> 00:01:50.260

But we're in this period now that

 

31

00:01:50.290 --> 00:01:55.660

since we have a divided government, the

massive trillion dollar bills that were

 

32

00:01:55.690 --> 00:01:59.380

passed in Congress last year probably

aren't going to happen again.

 

33

00:01:59.410 --> 00:02:00.540

So think about it.

 

34

00:02:00.570 --> 00:02:02.900

Last year Congress was stimulating

 

35

00:02:02.930 --> 00:02:07.260

inflation where the Federal Reserve

was trying to fight inflation.

 

36

00:02:07.290 --> 00:02:14.040

And even during that push pull, they still

got inflation down to 6.4%, which, if you

 

37

00:02:14.040 --> 00:02:16.340

think about it, was pretty

good accomplishment.

 

38

00:02:16.370 --> 00:02:18.240

I would agree.

 

39

00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:22.660

So as far as

looking at things, what do we think the

 

40

00:02:22.690 --> 00:02:27.880

outlook is going forward

with the inflation?

 

41

00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.520

If I had to bet, I would say we're going

 

42

00:02:30.550 --> 00:02:36.020

to have a sticking point right now because

right now wages are still relatively

 

43

00:02:36.050 --> 00:02:39.820

strong because the unemployment

rate is relatively low.

 

44

00:02:39.850 --> 00:02:44.180

So my guess would be maybe

move sideways a little bit.

 

45

00:02:44.210 --> 00:02:46.880

And then once all of the things that the

 

46

00:02:46.910 --> 00:02:54.240

Federal Reserve is doing gets through the

system, plus the world has had an

 

47

00:02:54.270 --> 00:03:00.920

amazingly warm winter, and that has a

positive impact on

 

48

00:03:01.600 --> 00:03:07.900

lowering of natural gas, lowering of

energy, cost heating, so on and so forth.

 

49

00:03:07.930 --> 00:03:12.060

So we've been fortunate

to have a mild winter.

 

50

00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:17.380

So sticking a little bit, federal Reserve

raise rates maybe one or two more times

 

51

00:03:17.410 --> 00:03:20.940

and then a continuation of a

downward movement, probably.

 

52

00:03:20.970 --> 00:03:25.940

Okay, can you speak a little bit more on

how inflation affects

 

53

00:03:25.970 --> 00:03:31.300

the budget or the aspect for

everyone here on their, I guess,

 

54

00:03:31.330 --> 00:03:35.100

discretionary versus

nondiscretionary monies.

 

55

00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:35.460

Yes.

 

56

00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:41.580

Everybody has a budget and I don't care if

you're rich, poor, middle income, if you

 

57

00:03:41.610 --> 00:03:45.460

are a school district, if you are the

government, everybody has budgets.

 

58

00:03:45.480 --> 00:03:47.280

So if you just think about budgets in

 

59

00:03:47.310 --> 00:03:51.180

these terms, you have X dollars

that comes in every month.

 

60

00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:56.610

And what's happening with inflation-

inflation acts like a magnet and it takes

 

61

00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:01.220

money away from the discretionary

side of one's budget.

 

62

00:04:01.250 --> 00:04:03.860

So your discretionary side are things like

 

63

00:04:03.890 --> 00:04:10.060

sporting events, things like going out to

dinner, things that you normally don't do.

 

64

00:04:10.090 --> 00:04:12.140

And so if I have a budget of, let's say

 

65

00:04:12.170 --> 00:04:19.860

$5,000 a month and inflation is at nine,

that magnet is taking money away from your

 

66

00:04:19.890 --> 00:04:28.300

discretionary side into

rent, housing, heating, food.

 

67

00:04:28.330 --> 00:04:31.220

Anybody that shops at a grocery store

 

68

00:04:31.250 --> 00:04:37.420

knows food is unbelievably expensive

right now, so it sucks it away.

 

69

00:04:37.450 --> 00:04:42.140

But it happens in the flip

when inflation starts to drop.

 

70

00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:46.220

So if I'm spending a dollar 89 for

 

71

00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:52.600

some raspberries and now it's a dollar 59,

believe it or not, that $0.30 has a

 

72

00:04:52.630 --> 00:04:55.580

tendency to move over to

the discretionary side.

 

73

00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:00.540

So every time you see it drop, the

discretionary side improves because

 

74

00:05:00.570 --> 00:05:03.220

everybody has a fixed

budget in their lives.

 

75

00:05:03.250 --> 00:05:10.580

So the hope is that it continues to

fall, taking money away from the feeding

 

76

00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.300

side, all that to the

nondiscretionary side.

 

77

00:05:14.330 --> 00:05:21.700

Okay, so any adjustments or portfolio

thoughts for our clients right now?

 

78

00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.380

With interest rates at approximately 20

 

79

00:05:23.410 --> 00:05:29.100

year highs, it's very tempting to

reduce the risk of a portfolio.

 

80

00:05:29.130 --> 00:05:32.080

So for example, most corporate bonds in

 

81

00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:35.500

the five to seven year

range are around 5%.

 

82

00:05:35.530 --> 00:05:38.020

We haven't seen those

rates in over 20 years.

 

83

00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.460

So that would act as a ballast or a good

 

84

00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:45.140

foundation for your portfolio and

reduce the risk at the same time.

 

85

00:05:45.170 --> 00:05:52.060

So my tendency is, is to be a little more

guarded, especially if you're in the last

 

86

00:05:52.090 --> 00:05:58.440

window of retirement, put a little more

money in bonds, get that 5% floor, reduce

 

87

00:05:58.470 --> 00:06:02.880

the risk of the portfolio; a

s a general comment.

 

88

00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.740

And as far as closing remarks, any

other closing remarks or anything?

 

89

00:06:08.770 --> 00:06:12.940

I just want to say to our clients

thank you very much for your continued

 

90

00:06:12.970 --> 00:06:15.340

trust and confidence

in this difficult time.

 

91

00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.220

We're going to try our best

to navigate through here.

 

92

00:06:18.250 --> 00:06:22.140

We as your financial advisors are

going to do our best possible.

 

93

00:06:22.170 --> 00:06:24.700

We will reach out to you ongoing to

 

94

00:06:24.730 --> 00:06:29.260

evaluate where you're at relative

to your risk and your objectives.

 

95

00:06:29.290 --> 00:06:34.780

And furthermore, we just want to continue

to share our service model with you here.

 

96

00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:40.980

Most of you have experienced this, but we

answer the phone with by the second ring.

 

97

00:06:41.010 --> 00:06:45.460

We don't have caller ID here, so

we're not screening anyone's calls.

 

98

00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.060

We don't have voicemail during business

 

99

00:06:48.090 --> 00:06:53.140

hours and we make it a point to

return your call within 24 hours.

 

100

00:06:53.170 --> 00:06:55.320

So we're also here of course, Jennifer

 

101

00:06:55.350 --> 00:06:59.060

& Stephanie are here for any

support needs that you have here.

 

102

00:06:59.090 --> 00:07:04.620

So, along with that, and kind of our

philosophy of just being simple, focused,

 

103

00:07:04.640 --> 00:07:08.080

and disciplined, we just want to share

that we're here for you and that we're

 

104

00:07:08.100 --> 00:07:12.100

going to continue to service you

in the best way that we know how.

 

105

00:07:12.130 --> 00:07:14.260

So.

Thank you, Jeremy.

 

106

00:07:14.290 --> 00:07:19.580

And I just want to again, say thank you to

our clients for allowing us to be part of

 

107

00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.900

your journey, for your financial

goals and aspirations.

 

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Yes.

Thank you, everyone.